Tuesday, September 2, 2008

Palin Member of Fringe Secessionist Group in 1990s?

How can someone who could possibly be in line to become President of the United States be associated with a group that advocates secession from the United States?

As President, you are supposed to pledge allegiance to the flag of the UNITED STATES of America, not the flag of Alaska.

People jumped all over Barack Obama for not wearing a flag pin, and questioned his patriotism.

What about a potential president who might have taken part in a group that wants to vote on removing itself from the United States, with some members openly taking the position that the United States is an illegal occupier?

If she subscribes to the group's motto "Alaska First," what does that mean as far as domestic policy decisions that would come out of a Palin administration?

From Jake Tapper's blog on ABC News:

Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.

And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."

Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.

"We are a state's rights party," says Clark, a self-employed goldminer. The AIP has "a plank that challenges the legality of the Alaskan statehood vote as illegal and in violation of United Nations charter and international law."

... Clark says that Palin left the party and became a Republican in 1996, when she first ran for mayor of Wasilla.



The goal of the AIP is stated on their website:

The Alaskan Independence Party's goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:

1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.


Here is Sarah Palin welcoming you to the 2008 AIP convention.



This next clip is the first of two parts from the AIP convention itself. About halfway through the speech (at 6:00), the vice chairman of the AIP, Dexter Clark, says this of Palin: 
Our current governor who I mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected . . . .and there was a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an AIP member before she got the job as mayor . . . but to get-along-to-go-along, she eventually joined the Republican Party . . .

He then urges members to infiltrate political parties to further their cause.





The following clip is a continuation of the speech from Dexter Clark, the vice chairman from the AIP. In it, he elaborates about the necessity of infiltrating the major national parties to promote the goals of the AIP. 

At about 2:00, Clark states "We don't say we're Americans, we say we're Alaskans." He then boasts of talking to schoolchildren who give the thumb's down sign for America, and the thumb's up sign for Alaska. 




If it took the blogosphere two days to dig this up, how come McCain in his vetting process couldn't find this?

Or, will he say that he already knew about it, and it was "alright" with him?

UPDATE: Ben Smith's blog in Politico provides evidence by the McCain campaign that despite the AIP claims, Palin was never a member of the organization. Smith also claims that the group is more mainstream in Alaska than would appear.

Click here to see Palin's voter registration.

Although ABC's Jake Tapper isn't buying it, and is calling it a case of "She said/she said."

Dexter Clark's wife, Lynette is quoted:

Ms. Clark -- a self-employed gold miner who wants Alaska to become an independent nation -- says that the McCain campaign pushback that Pain was never part of the AIP is "hooey."

"This is like a cat covering up crap in its litter box," she says.


UPDATE: The record stands that Sarah Palin was not a member of the party, but her husband Todd was. ABC's Jake Tapper has been following the story:

So the facts are: Gov. Palin was not a member of this third-party ("Alaska First -- Alaska Always") that wants Alaskans to get a vote on whether or not the state can secede from the U.S. But her husband was a long-time member, and at least two AIP officials recall her attending the 1994 convention, though she says she did not attend.

17 comments:

kroses said...

What a freak! As his first decision, this was the worst one he could have ever picked for VP!!! McAlzheimers John had better get rid of this woman quickly, before it hinders his chances permanently!!!

Anonymous said...

I've done better background checks on my babysitter.

Anonymous said...

You people are idiots.

Anonymous said...

Yikes! This keeps getting worse. Who is this person, and why did McCain pick her?

Anonymous said...

Ahhh... so we are to ignore Mr. Obama's use of cocaine, his associations (because Mr. Ayers bombed the Pentagon when Mr. Obama was only 8 years old), and his stance on the "born alive" laws in IL?

My guess is that this will help, rather than hinder Ms. Palin's (and Mr. McCain's) chances in the fall.

and... I guess Winston Churchill said it right:

"If you are 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. If you are 40 and still a liberal, you have no brain."

Anonymous said...

Are you kidding me? Noone has ignored Obama's past...it has been picked over with a fine-toothed comb....in fact people have fabricated lies about him. So, don't start crying foul when 'the media' starts vetting Palin.

Anonymous said...

Aren't we in Timothy McVeigh territory with this? This alone should be enough to have Palin step down.

CycloneCross said...

Perhaps this is why it was SO IMPORTANT that Trig be born in Alaska and not Texas? (That is if Trig is indeed Sarah's child; Sarah's daughter is said to be currently pregnant which might be part of an elaborate cover-up)

Anonymous said...

Barack Oblogger's identity has been revealed as Barack Ocoward. Yesterday's thread, in which she demonstrated her reactionary self-hate, has been airbrushed out of history.

For the record: yesterday, Ms. Oblogger claimed that because she's a woman, she reserves the right to pry into the sex life of a 17-year-old girl.

Now, just like Obama's Annenberg files, the unpleasantness has been deleted, with no reference to the original, smearing post and no trace of the illogical, amoral and intrusive reproductive policing.

Barack Oblogger has been revealed (redundantly, I know) to be not a "blogger" but a propagandist par mediocre.

And now the predictable pivot. Makes me wonder why Obama hates women so much?

Keep sniffing those panties, Opropagandist. You're doing a fine job!

Anonymous said...

This is the stuff of elitest koolaid drinkers. Oblogger, you have got to be on LSD or heroin. Either that or you did too much of it. If that is all you have on Palin, you are grossly inadequate.

Rebecca Johnston said...

Is it really that bad to be from Alaska, to support a person to be pro-Alaska? I mean I may just be a humble 13 year old Canadian, but god damned this isn't right. And that's like saying we don't allow a Native American become president or prime minister because they're supporting their tribe. Just because you support one thing doesn't mean you can't support the other.

Personally I don't want McCain to become president. I feel that he isn't fit, he's too much like Bush. but I feel that it's not right to criticism him for choosing someone to be his vice-presidential candidate. It's basically prejudice I recon. How can you say that you shouldn't be a vice president because you support your homeland? Is that very American? Is that very democratic?

You people say that you're pro-democracy, that you have the right to be from anywhere and be of any race without discrimination. You support an African American male with very little political experience to become president. So why, why on god's green earth, are you judging this woman on what she supports. And then judging someone on supporting someone because that someone supports someone else? That's just ignorance. Feel free to contact me on my website, trymegraphics.com, if you have further things to add. Just no being hypocrites, please. It's not right.

truth2power said...

Perhaps, if you people would learn decent grammar, and would learn how to spell, we could listen to you. But you do neither, and so we won't! You know nothing, and therefore we will not listen to you! We do not listen to those who preach one thing and do another. That is called "HYPOCRISY," and you Right-Wingers have that with a capital "H!"

jose said...

Palin clearly says "welcome," "your party," and finally, "our state." Case closed.

So far the explosive stories on her have been this one and her daughter's pregnancy? Yawn.

CycloneCross said...

"Is it really that bad to be from Alaska, to support a person to be pro-Alaska? I mean I may just be a humble 13 year old Canadian, but god damned this isn't right."

Rebecca, the worry isn't that Palin is 'pro-Alaska', it is that she might be 'pro-secessionist'. One might look at the AIP in the same light as the situation with Quebec. Would you feel the same if a PM candidate wanted to see Quebec be a separate nation from Canada?

Anonymous said...

In any case, Palin was very cute !!!

http://www.webchercheurs.com/51/1049-fr-sarah-palin-nue-photo-vice-presidente-usa.html

Anonymous said...

She was just picked. We will find more problems with Palin as the weeks pass. I can’t wait for the VP debates when Biden makes her cry.

Barack Oblogger said...

Barack Oblogger's identity has been revealed as Barack Ocoward. Yesterday's thread, in which she demonstrated her reactionary self-hate, has been airbrushed out of history."

Well, ANONYMOUS... If you're so courageous, why don't you put your REAL name on your post?

Also, you people are never satisfied. First you tell me to take it down, and then when I do you get angry. sheesh.

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